Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 17

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May 17[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 17, 2024.

Template:R ac[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 23:39, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ambiguous between {{r acronym}} and {{r from alt cap}}. jlwoodwa (talk) 20:23, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete (prefer) or disambiguate, but there are so few uses that you could easily remove the links manually. Looking at the history shows that the page author also swapped between the mentioned targets a month after creation. ― Synpath 01:48, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: For what it's worth, this redirect has about 10 transclusions that need to be resolved prior to this redirect being deleted or retargeted. Steel1943 (talk) 01:25, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose disambiguation. Template shortcuts need not be unambiguous. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 23:09, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete or disambiguate as acronym would seem more likely. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:23, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Delete: I cleaned up the usages except one that's WP:GOLDLOCK'd. No opinion on this otherwise. Actually this is ambiguous and confusing due to only being two letters. It's not hard to type out any of the categories and the insert a template button has a search feature for a reason. StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 18:26, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Confusing, useless. Typing a few more characters isn't hard. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:56, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Millennium Council[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to White House Millennium Council. Jay 💬 15:13, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Currently redirects to Basingstoke (UK Parliament constituency)#Elections in the 2000s because someone used "Millennium Council" as a ballot paper description while standing for election in Basingstoke, England 2005. He received 0.3% of the vote. Not sure this is appropriate nor the most suitable target. Suggest deleting or retargeting to White House Millennium Council. AusLondonder (talk) 18:07, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Retarget or DAB, Google even from England doesn't return anything for the Basingstoke one and returns the likes of the White House one, Australian one and others in England. Also its only mentioned once in the target. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:11, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Retarget to White House Millennium Council. The current target is so obscure (per nom) that it is implausible to be the intended target for 99% of readers. Thefficacy (talk) 00:51, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Iranian nuclear scientist killed[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 25#Iranian nuclear scientist killed

Bannzil Kwéyòl[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 23:39, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Literally cannot see why people would search for this and the fact that I cannot find it anywhere in the article makes me want to strongly delete it. The unaccented Bannzil Kweyol will also be nominated for the same reason JuniperChill (talk) 20:15, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unaccented version now combined. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:06, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Criticism of Apple Inc.[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 15:48, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Listing this here for discussion stemming from my glance at its page history. No personal comment on this, but what do you think? Intrisit (talk) 19:41, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Either Delete as per WP:REDLINK, or Retarget to Apple supply chain, with a heavy lean to Deletion. This is an interesting case-- The current target, Apple Inc., is a bad target because it... well, doesn't discuss criticism of the company, or at least doesn't do so in a concise, easy-to-find manner. However, the page that this very redirect has been pointed to in the past-- Apple supply chain-- is too narrow in scope (given it only covers criticism of the supply chain, and not criticism of, for example, Apple's war against Right to Repair, or its removal of the headphone jack on the iPhone 7, or any number of other topics-- and furthermore, the article is in heavy need of a rewrite anyways, it reads more like a screed against Apple rather than an impartial discussion of the topic. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 20:17, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete As Lunamann notes, the main article doesn't discuss criticism of the company. I am opposed to retargeting because the supply chain surely isn't the only controversial thing about Apple. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 21:32, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Criticism of Apple Inc was a full page that was moved to Practices of Apple Inc and then moved and cut down to just be Apple supply chain. I tried fixing this to target back there earlier. StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 01:57, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Might as well just delete the redirect to encourage people to create an actual criticism article again. I'm not sure why the original criticism article was cut down so much. StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 02:00, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per redlink, could be an article, isn't an article, has no place to send readers to right now. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 13:52, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete to allow for article creation. Highly notable topic, but all potential targets are too vague and unhelpful. Apple has been criticized for a variety of issues, from its supply chain to its "walled garden" to the recent iPad commercial. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:42, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Also bundle Criticism of Apple Inc. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:29, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Pppery: Bundled together, so that whatever outcome here will also affect that rdr title. Intrisit (talk) 20:41, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Presidentman. That title once hosted a great article but *sigh* it was rekt. Though I'm fine starting a new Criticism article, bringing it the way it once was. For more info about how this all happened, see Talk: Apple Inc./Archive 10#Redirect to this page goes nowhere. (Note: That thread was under my previous username, Mseingth2133444.) thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 00:49, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Practices of Apple Inc.[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 23:40, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Listing this here for discussion stemming from my glance at its page history. No personal comment on this, but what do you think? Intrisit (talk) 19:41, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: confusing for a reader, like Criticism of Apple Inc. above. thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 00:49, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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2023-24 Major Clubs Limited Over Tournament[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 25#2023-24 Major Clubs Limited Over Tournament

Boston Incident[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 25#Boston Incident

Telephonics Corporation[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 30#Telephonics Corporation

Jonny cochrane[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 11:10, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

honestly, i feel like it could refer to both Johnnie Cochran or Johnny Cochrane. Probably even more to the latter since the redirect uses the exact last name. Okmrman (talk) 00:55, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguate with links to both. Traumnovelle (talk) 03:18, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete for 2 errors (from whichever target is intended). There's no justification for any further disambiguation: both targets have a hatnote. 16:04, 27 April 2024 (UTC)Shhhnotsoloud (talk)

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  • Keep A disambiguation page consisting of nothing but errors is questionable IMO, especially with only two entries. Since both articles appropriately have hatnotes to each other and the lawyer is ultimately more notable, I'm fine with the status quo. As a second choice, go ahead and redirect it to the football manager—the nominator has a point that at least there's an exact match for the surname. --BDD (talk) 19:45, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: One more go.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 10:27, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per Shhhnotsoloud. Two errors away from either potential target is beyond the tolerance of WP:RTYPO, and the double error also introduces an WP:XY issue that a disambiguation, as pointed out, feels like the wrong call to resolve. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 20:25, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, no obvious target and we shouldn't make a dab for typos. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 13:53, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as having multiple typos, and without being closer to either correct spelling, per WP:XY. Complex/Rational 14:26, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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PORTIA[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 00:59, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Although I see PORTIA (in all caps) mentioned here, I think it makes sense to redirect to Portia (disambig page) instead. JuniperChill (talk) 10:56, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • REtarget to dab page -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 05:45, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. This capitalised redirect is correctly targeted and there's a hatnote to other uses. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:37, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per SHHH Okmrman (talk) 15:23, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Also notified of this discussion at the current and proposed targets and the creator talk page.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 10:09, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per shhh. mwwv(converse) 14:22, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Doctor (rapper)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Complex/Rational 14:24, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in the target article, leaving the connection between the redirect and the target article unclear. Per the edit history trail left by the redirect, the subject of this redirect may have a connection to the subject at Life (Sigma album). Steel1943 (talk) 18:58, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: This redirect previously targeted the page now at Rudeboy (Sigma song), where the sole reference (outside of the infobox and citations) to the rapper was that the song was featuring vocals from British singer MC Doctor (permalink). That page was BLARed in Jan 2023 and now targets Life (Sigma album), which - outside of the tracklist - references Doctor once, in the sentence "Rudeboy" featuring Doctor was released as the album's first single on 15 December 2013. (The reason Doctor (rapper) currently targets Rude boy is because the redirect Rudeboy (song) was retargeted to that article not long after a move, causing a bot to retarget this redirect there as well.) All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 22:04, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom unless page gets updated Okmrman (talk) 04:04, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Either Delete, or retarget to Dr. Dre, given he's the first "Doctor rapper" my brain thinks of. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 20:27, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Enwiki doesn't appear to have anything substantive about a rapper known as Doctor (or indeed doctors who are rappers). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:12, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Pan-American English[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:57, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I just created it but I'm not sure if it's the best idea. I based it on Pan-American Spanish, but English language has no specific article for all the Americas. Or does it have under another name? --MikutoH talk! 22:21, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete, cannot find use as one subject, usually "Pan-American" "English school", nothing about a grouping of varieties. Caribbean English is even considered separate, so the article is purely on the US and Canada. So the redirect not necessary nor representative of the article. I cannot find any wider article, under Category:English language in the Americas, possibly one could be made, so a redirect made then. DankJae 20:01, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Weak Delete - South American English redirects to a list of English variations for individual countries in the Caribbean, Central, and South America, and it doesn't look like these have much in common with what is described in the North American English article, nor are they discussed together as a group. I note Pan-American French redirects to American French with a list of French speaking locations from the United States, Canada, and Haiti. I'm leaning towards the idea of deleting Pan-American French and Pan-American English both, as they don't discuss north, central, and south Americas (Pan-America) together... and as such is kinda falsely claiming we have information on a subject that we don't. Weak !vote because I'm not sure this one is really harmful. Fieari (talk) 05:11, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Jhanak[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 23:40, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect with confusing history left over from promotional copy-and-paste moving. A draft of this television show exists at Draft:Jhanak (and has also been created at other titles). Target is one of the networks it has aired on, but has no information on the show at all. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:19, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Thoughts on the page history?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 09:19, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Just checked through the page history and would've tilted towards keep per my answer to Jay's question but since the nom pointed out its draftspace counterpart with knida the same if not similar info to the one at the mainspace rdr title. The choices here for me with this are either to go for a histmerge since Pppery is here and is all over it and delete this title or delete it outright since the draft should it be notable enough would move there anyway. Intrisit (talk) 20:41, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Desi (Tibetan)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 06:16, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The target doesn't tell me what "Desi" means in the context of Tibet. Is there a better target, or should we delete it if there's no substantive information? Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:28, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment The most substantive information I can find is at Dalai Lama, where the term is used several times and briefly defined once as "regent" or "viceroy." I am not sure that would be a suitable target, however, since the discussion is so brief. It might be better to leave as a redlink or perhaps find a more suitable article where a substantive mention could be added (maybe Ganden Phodrang?). - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 14:07, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Is a disambiguation page feasible?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 09:17, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think so. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:15, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete by default, since it's been almost a month and nobody is proposing any alternative actions. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:16, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional musical instruments[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 25#Category:Fictional musical instruments

D-bar operator[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Dbar. Although the nomination was for achieving consistency between the two entries, the discussion found them to be ambiguous terms that could be solved by disambiguation. One suggestion was to reuse the disambig page Dbar that was created midway this RfD. Ideally, the redirects need to be refined to a Dbar section related to the D-bar operator, but that is not present as of now. Jay 💬 06:25, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

These should presumably go to the same target (note also ddbar lemma). 1234qwer1234qwer4 21:35, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: the operator is somewhat overloaded: the operator might be applied to complex functions in one or several variables, or to complex differential forms. It might be a Dolbeault operator or a Wirtinger derivative, in other words. I think the most helpful target is complex differential form. (Ideally the short section in Cauchy–Riemann equations on the several variables case should also be expanded, but a {{details}} link to complex differential form would anyway be good.) Charles Matthews (talk) 02:51, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Some other relevant pages are Dolbeault cohomology#Dolbeault–Grothendieck lemma and Holomorphic vector bundle#Dolbeault operators. I suspect a disambiguation page may be the best solution. Tazerenix (talk) 04:40, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Disambiguate, several operators sharing the same mathematical notation. Ideally, redirect it to a section of the recently made Dbar disambiguation above. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 15:54, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hisham Saleh[edit]

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